Later on this week, 70,000 men and women will converge on a short-term city in the Black Rock Desert, Nevada. Burning Man founder Larry Harvey informed Dezeen about the “stunning achievement” of making a higher-density, car-totally free festival in a remote and inhospitable landscape (+ slideshow + transcript).

In the early many years the Burning Man festival had few rules, but as the occasion grew in scale, Harvey realised the anarchy needed to be replaced by a degree of order.

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“Men and women craved orientation,” he mentioned throughout a mobile phone interview with Dezeen, set up after a meeting at Design and style Indaba in Cape Town earlier this year, exactly where Harvey was a speaker. “It was a quite fundamental primal want.”

As a result the organisers realised they had to act as a “de facto government” of this huge temporary settlement, which came to be known as Black Rock City.

Harvey, born in 1948, worked with late architect and urban designer Rod Garrett to excellent the festival’s layout. “We needed urban design and style simply because it truly is a city,” mentioned Harvey, who started the festival on a San Francisco beach in 1986 before moving it to the vast, featureless desert, which is “the size of a modest European country,” in 1991.

Burning Man festival An aerial see of Black Rock City during Burning Guy in 2000. Photograph by Gabe Kirchheimer

Black Rock City is laid out in a horseshoe all around the “burning man” – a giant effigy that is set alight at the climax of the festival. This layout evolved over numerous years to support attendees orient themselves and guarantee their security, but also to “induce social interactions that would in flip create a sense of community and a culture,” Harvey explained.


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Harvey is especially proud of the fact that Burning Man, which this 12 months runs from thirty August to seven September, achieves high densities and low auto use in a country the place most cities are sprawling and auto dependent.

“It really is a stunning achievement and folks just consider it for granted,” he explained. “We’re building in densities that Americans aren’t employed to.”

Burning Man festival The site of the the 2014 Burning Guy. Photograph by Duncan Rawlinson

“It is rather dense and we liked that since we have been obsessed with constructing social interaction, so we engineered these densities to market that.”

Cars, which had been previously driven with abandon, have been banned from the festival’s streets after a critical accident in 1996, but this led to the widespread adoption of bicycles.


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“And the bicycle issue, well considering that men and women couldn’t use their automobiles they had to use their bicycles didn’t they?”

Map of Burning ManThe dimension of Black Rock City in comparison to downtown San Francisco.

Study an edited transcript of the interview with Larry Harvey beneath:


Marcus Fairs: Tell me how the layout of Burning Guy evolved. Why did you want to function with an urban designer?

Larry Harvey: Effectively, we needed urban style since it really is a city. The contemporary form of it evolved by stages. Actually, in the really starting there was a design and style that no 1 had really consciously regarded but just emerged as a response to the room. We have been a small little band in all that emptiness, and like any group we kind of gathered about a centre and designed a sense of shelter in the midst of this vacuum that had otherwise threatened to swallow us up.

A single of the most important discoveries was that we discovered the electrical power of surveyors flags. We discovered that you could delineate boundary lines at any scale you pleased as extended as people could see the line developed by a succession of flags. For that reason you could craft space in an atmosphere that was so disjointed.

People craved orientation. It was a very simple primal need to have. So we could develop a boundary that served tons of functional purposes and especially generate boundaries that individuals would camp along. Eventually that was the way we designed every little thing: the streets, each and every aspect of the bounded environment.

It was not unlike the Greeks when they’d go about making new cities. I may possibly be wrong about this but I think there was a Greek god of boundaries that they would honour to begin with, and that is variety of what we had been undertaking. We considered we had been Greeks.

Map of Burning ManThe authentic strategy of the festival was a circle, formed instinctively by people gathering close to a central stage.

Marcus Fairs: And when you started utilizing those flags did you previously have the horseshoe layout?

Larry Harvey: Effectively, no. It was informal, so the initial handful of years there remained some type of central point exactly where there might be some shade, and individuals camped in an quick circle all around it. Past that it was just random. But that first cue was enough to generate a centre and the city just dispersed outwards. So the 1st street was a circle around the civic centre.

From that we configured the city as a compass with north, south, east and west indicators and that was once again since of the vastness of the area. It was really simple to get disoriented. We were really modest but even at any scale if you get very far from a stage of reference it sort of dissolves in the thermals and items can get really disorienting. One side of the valley seems like an additional if you happen to be not paying attention to the stars or the moon at evening. It is just an oceanic chaos. So we constituted that as a device, as a compass that would orient individuals.

All of that produced in reaction to this boundless space. It is challenging to describe the electrical power of it. It is so supremely featureless, you know. There is no lifestyle there to interrupt the alkaline sediments are inimical to most forms of existence. I feel there’s 1 species that can dwell there, a tiny shrimp, and which is one tiny minor species in an region the dimension of a little European country.

So all of that was an try to construct a comprehensible area and certainly, from the very beginning, it was a daily life or death concern. It was an existential situation because people could simply overshoot our campsite. The authentic indicates to guide men and women there, prior to we had a gate and were able to charge for admission, was that we would direct them to a location where they could exit a highway.

There they would uncover a trailer exactly where they would be offered the secret directions to travel so far north and then so far east. And if they have been lucky they located us. And then what they would uncover is what amounted to a giant compass inscribed on the desert floor just by employing these flags.

Map of Burning ManIn 1996, a zone referred to as No Man’s Land was established in front of the settlement to preserve the see of the “burning guy”.

So that gets to the point in which you have the cardinal directions and you have a circle in the centre. I will quick forward a bit. When we moved area in ’96, when ten,000 individuals came, it became clear that we were a de facto government, inscribing these diagrams on the desert floor.

We formed a police force because men and women would get lost and we desired to save their lives there have been men and women who patrolled the outer bounds of the desert looking for castaways and strays who would get effortlessly mired, since the desert has a extremely large water table and they’d sink to their axles and be stranded.

More than the many years a lot of have people died in the desert and no a single routinely patrolled it, the neighborhood county didn’t send individuals out. Soon after ’96 it became quite plain that except if factors had been regulated, unless we could produce civic buy, with the numbers that were coming in, it was unsafe. No longer could it be regarded as a shooting variety, no longer could automobiles be offered license to drive at random all around the encampment, at times with their lights turned off, often driving at a hundred miles an hour.

In fact what became obvious is that all this confusion was limiting people’s liberty, simply because if you dwell in concern, you are not cost-free. So we left the desert and went to a nearby property in Hualapai valley, which is only about a twenty minute drive from Black Rock, and which is where we have our production facility and our ranch nowadays.

What we liked about that site is that on all sides there was a normal boundary to entry, which allowed us to set up a gate. That gave us an revenue.

We occupied an area of a tiny playa [dry lakebed] not considerably greater than an acre, perhaps less. It was federal land and we did not have a allow [to camp on the playa] so we positioned the guy in this small playa in a far more or less central area.

There was a vegetated portion of land that bordered the small playa and we produced a campground on that. This was a matter of political accommodation since we have been trying to get out of the federal jurisdiction. So we developed a city, a settlement, on the land that fronted that playa.

It was an awkward, segmented factor. The prepare was crisp but the execution was… nicely, it was vegetated land so the roads that we manufactured have been not completely regular. But the diagram, the map, formed the basis of the modern Burning Man.

Map of Burning ManThe web site of Burning Guy has altered over the years, determined largely by political concerns, along with well being and safety troubles.

Marcus Fairs: So you took this layout with you when you returned to the Black Rock Desert in 1997?

Larry Harvey: So we took what had been developed, this notion of the guy, which echoed the very beginning when the man was apart from the settlement, and somehow we retained that, and this awkwardly segmented city that curved round it, in some recipient way grew to become this semi-circle. We replicated that and figured out a way to generate a boundary close to it that was patrolable, which we didn’t have the means to do just before.

But finally we met this new challenge – and this was all to deal with visitors – and secured a border, which had a great influence on almost everything thereafter. And then we turned the city into an arc and so found the guy – and this was a brilliant stroke – so that it became a common survey stage for every little thing, which indicates actually that each and every dimension derives from that unique spot. You could not do that if it had been a rectilinear grid, but it was a best segmented arc and it worked superbly for that. In turn that impacted people’s knowledge significantly simply because it grew to become the ultimate landmark for exactly where you were. You’d appear to see the spot of the guy.

1997 was an inspiring year, we manufactured a whole lot of innovations. It seems clear now but it wasn’t then that if you treat it like a clock face then every person is aware of how to study a clock face. Then if you named the radial streets right after the hours, and then alphabetised the latitudinal streets that follow the curve, then the coordinates are quite straightforward and you can uncover every thing.

Every thing considering that then was an elaboration of this central style. It allowed us to expand: we just extra streets at the back. We attempted experiments later by blowing it up or shrinking it down, escalating the volume of issues, and that was fascinating. But we never ever departed them from that really basic layout because it worked so effectively on so numerous ranges.

It was extremely practical. It manufactured it effortless to set the city up. It manufactured it easy to navigate the city. It was very straightforward to orient oneself in relation to every thing within the pentagram that was our outer boundary of the municipal space. That was a five-sided figure due to the fact it was Rod [Garrett]’s calculation that it was the most patrolable shape. A circle would not have completed, but if you have a 5-sided figure and you publish folks at the points, you could survey the entire boundary line.

So with that five-sided figure and the segmented arc and the central place of the man, which also served as the area from which the total city was surveyed and measured, you had in essence what we have these days.

We added some issues as we went along. We wished to socialise folks and advertise interaction and foment neighbourhoods. We designed courtyards – plazas – that ran along the 6 o’clock, 3 o’clock and nine o’clock axes. And that fairly much accounts for the layout of the city.

Map of Burning ManIn 1997 the festival was reorganised. The plan had specified roads and street names, along with other urban amenities.

Marcus Fairs: At what level did you choose that you needed to carry an architect or a designer on board? How did the collaboration with Rod Garrett come about?

Larry Harvey: Well that started in 1997. [Rod] was the landlord of two of my colleagues, and after I acquired to know him I came to collaborate with him on a whole lot of items not only developing the city but we had a really close innovative collaboration in developing the themes each year, the architectural elements. I would invent the theme and then we would perform together to uncover indicates of expressing it. He would design the man bases as we get in touch with them, since they function as pavilions rather than just as pedestals [of the central effigy] and he would design and style individuals. We would go back and forth collectively, which was pretty.

I soon came to realise he was a genius. He could see items in 3 dimensions in his thoughts and generate styles with outstanding clarity. So he was really talented and as geniuses do was in a position to target his attention on any style query so significantly that he could find options, stylish and organic remedies to difficulties significantly more quickly than most people can.

And you know, it wasn’t just Rod dreaming something up in a fit of utopian enthusiasm. It was us speaking to him incessantly about the sensible demands and myself talking to him about the symbolic requirements. He was an intuitive man, he was an artist.

Map of Burning ManIn 1999, the theme was the Wheel of Time. The increments and street names had been all primarily based all around the concept of a clock face.

Marcus Fairs: The radial, arcing layout has been in contrast to backyard cities and utopian cities. Had been you mindful of that at the time or was it just the most practical answer to the wants and the website?

Larry Harvey: It was just the answer to the issues that we had. It was partly visionary and also very rational. But the impetus was extremely pragmatic: we’ll do what works. Our preoccupation has constantly been to craft area in such a way as to induce social interactions that would in turn produce a sense of community and a culture, but starting up from the very fast situation of how action influences perception.

Rod and I were really considerably in the identical mind in that regard, so it was not as although we have been crafting it to signify one thing, even though we have been crafting it in a way as to induce certain extremely simple primal impressions. So I began out talking about primal impressions and adaptions to this existential challenge. We usually preserve that see of it, except our aims grew to become more and a lot more sophisticated as our notion of what the civilised ends we needed to obtain became much more clear to us.

Marcus Fairs: Do you think Burning Guy has any lessons for long term cities?

Larry Harvey: No, we never ever considered of it that way frankly. You could extend it but at a specific point that it would turn into impractical if you just stored scaling that up and turned it into a city of a million people. The layout wouldn’t function. For ceremonial functions it could even go larger we feel it could go up to one hundred,000 people. I’m just talking about the city design and style, not necessarily the logistical difficulty of folks getting to and from it. But for ceremonial purposes it really is completely sublime.

Marcus Fairs: And it also looks a minor bit like an amphitheatre as nicely a flattened amphitheatre.

Larry Harvey: Yeah, and it appears like a Neolithic temple complicated. There are a couple I know that are remarkably like that. I have really looked at aerial pictures of one and it seems to be like it could nearly be our city. But we were not aware of that as we went along. We were engineering society but we weren’t basing it on some elaborate intellectual construct. You know, that way of seeking at it, which is what I am dishing out here due to the fact I am meditating on our actions, it does not work the other way round. We’re not French.

Burning-Man-festival_maps_dezeen_2015_8This year’s program follows the very same radial, arcing layout. The street circling the central camp has been named Rod’s Road in honour of Rod Garrett.

Marcus Fairs: A city without cars is fairly unusual in America. Do individuals instantly adapt to the pedestrian lifestyle or the cycling daily life?

Larry Harvey: Well I’m glad you mention that, simply because it is a stunning achievement and individuals just get it for granted. It is real at campsites in America: you are not allowed to drive. Well, some of them are overrun with numerous roads due to the fact people cannot be bothered with hiking to a trailhead, but the recognised pattern is that you park your vehicle by your campsite. It’s not like a city exactly where almost everything is laid out for the ease of travel by automobile.

But we did it just to preserve life. There was a horrible accident in ’96 and that manufactured a fantastic impression on everybody, so that was our incentive for undertaking that. We did two issues: not only did we call for folks to anchor their cars to their campsite but ultimately, as time went on and we were putting more and much more camps ahead of time – that is, allotting them space – we have been building in densities that Americans are not used to. It was quite dense and we liked that because we had been obsessed with constructing social interaction, so we engineered those densities to encourage that.

Naturally the issue with people being in their vehicles is that they have been just threats to one yet another. But suddenly as quickly as we began zoning and placing some camps in ’97, entire villages rose up almost overnight, which in the outdated pattern was a scattershot point, where there was no latitude and the organisation of the area did not conduce to that.

It was libertarian but it was extremely communitarian. Men and women still had the open playa where all the artwork is and they can program about and, except for the two axes, trackless. You have total freedom of motion so it’s a nice contrast. You have this sandbox, this arena of freedom and radically totally free daily life, and then you have this far more or less stamped grid that is, at least by American requirements, very dense. It truly is packed collectively.

And the bicycle factor, nicely since folks could not use their cars they had to use their bicycles didn’t they? Or else they could flip cars into artwork, which is really an enterprise and our common for that has received higher and increased and larger as men and women have excelled at making factors, so now that’s a rather higher standard and it is a actual dedication and it is an informal public transportation system but we did not actually see it that way.

So the art automobiles are the public transportation method. And that demands regulation because lately we have had art automobiles that will not want people on board and that want personal events, and that is in conflict with the communitarian feeling and the interactive facet of society. So now we’re moving to shift viewpoint and influence behaviour, so they will be accepting of all citizens.

Pictures and programs courtesy of the Burning Guy festival and Jonathan LaLiberty.

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